Dublin City Council · WEB5220/25
2A Doris Street, Ringsend, Dublin 4, D04 DT21
Approved in Nov 2025.
- 24 Sept 2025Received
- 18 Nov 2025Approved
- 23 Dec 2025Final approval
Planning details
- Status
- Approved
- Decision
- Approved retention permission · 18 Nov 2025
- Reference
- WEB5220/25
- Type
- Retention Permission
- Received
- 24 Sept 2025
- Site
- 48 m²
What’s proposed
RETENTION: Permission for as constructed attic conversion with dormer to rear
38 other applications within 500 m in the last year · 1 open for comments
Open the free reportNearby 38 · 500 m · 12 months
Distance
Time
- OpenCool Hand Coffee Roasters, Hanover Quay, Grand Canal Dock, Dublin 2
- WithdrawnHanover Quay, Cool Hand Coffee Roasters Ltd, Grand Canal Dock, Dublin 2
- Awaiting decisionThe Hot Box Sauna, Unit 7, Building 2, Bolands Mills, Barrow Street, Dublin, D04 KA9P
- Awaiting decisionThe Treasury Building and Treasury Annex, Grand Canal Street Lower and Macken Street, Dublin 2.
- WithdrawnThe Treasury Building and Treasury Annex, Grand Canal Street Lower and Macken Street, Dublin 2
- Granted2 Grand Canal Quay, Dublin 2
- Withdrawn2 Grand Canal Quay, Dublin 2
- Awaiting decisionUnit 6, Miller's Lodge 33 - 34 Barrow Street, Dublin 4, D04P6W6
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- Withdrawn34 South Dock Street, Dublin 4, D04 NC85
- Awaiting decisionEmerald Cottages, to rear of 14 Grand Canal Street Upper, Dublin 2
- Awaiting decisionUnit 6, Miller's Lodge, 33-34 Barrow Street, Dublin 4,, D04 PW6W
- Awaiting decision26, Penrose Street, Ringsend, Dublin 4, D04 KV05
- WithdrawnUnit 6, Miller's Lodge, 33-34 Barrow Street, Dublin 4, D04 PW6W
- Awaiting decision42, South Dock Street, Dublin 4
- Awaiting decision32, Havelock Square, Dublin 4
- Withdrawn32, Havelock Square, Dublin 4, D04 E335
- Granted16, Northumberland Court, Northumberland Road, Dublin 4
- Appealed15 Northumberland Court, Northumberland Road, D04 H5C0
- Granted18 Northumberland Court, Northumberland Road, D04 V0C9
- Withdrawn42, South Dock Street, Dublin 4
- Awaiting decision16 Grand Canal Street Upper, Ballsbridge, Dublin 4, D04 PX73
- Withdrawn42, South Dock Street, Dublin 4, D04C579
- Withdrawn16, Grand Canal Street Upper, Dublin 4
- Granted61, Ringsend Road, Dublin 4
- GrantedThe Watermarque Building, Ringsend Road, Dublin 4, D04 K7N3
- Withdrawn42 South Dock Street, Dublin 4, D04 C579
- Commenced62, South Lotts Road, Ringsend, Dublin 4
- Commenced1 Bath Avenue Gardens, Sandymount, Dublin 4, D04NR13
- GrantedUnit 1, The Anchorage, Charlotte Quay, Ringsend Road, Dublin 4
- WithdrawnUnit 1, The Anchorage, Charlotte Quay , Ringsend Road, Dublin 4, D04 Y191
- RefusedThe Hot Box Sauna, Tower 2, The Flour Mills, Bolands Quay, Ringsend and Barrow Street, Dublin 4
- WithdrawnUnit 1, The Anchorage, Charlotte Quay , Ringsend Road, Dublin 4
- WithdrawnThe Hot Box Sauna, Unit 7, Tower 2, The Flour Mills, Bolands Quay, Ringsend and Barrow Street, Dublin 4
- WithdrawnThe Hot Box Sauna, Unit 7, Tower 2, Bolands Quay, Barrow Street, Dublin 4, D04 KA9P
- WithdrawnUnit 1, The Anchorage, Ringsend Road, Dublin 4
- Commenced38 Grand Canal Street Upper, Dublin 4
- Withdrawn38 Grand Canal Street Upper, Dublin 4, D04 A344
- Granted20, Gordon Street, Dublin 4, D04 A407
- Withdrawn20 Gordon Street, Dublin 4, D04A407
- GrantedNo. 2 Grand Canal Quay, Dublin 2 and No. 1 Grand Canal Quay, Dublin 2
- Granted100, Haddington Road, Dublin 4
- Granted36 Margaret Place, Dublin 4
- Commenced3 Gerald Street, Ringsend, Dublin 4, D04 X5P0
- Awaiting decisionThe Shipwright Guesthouse, 16-20 Thorncastle Street, Dublin 4, D04NT78
- WithdrawnThe Shipwright Guesthouse, 16/20 Thorncastle Street, Dublin 4, D04 NT78
- GrantedMellons Shop and Deli, 56 South Lotts Road, Dublin 4, D04 K665
- Commenced18, Bath Avenue Gardens, Ballsbridge, Dublin 4, D04 C6H3
- Commenced3, Grand Canal Quay, Dublin 2, D02 WC65
- Withdrawn3 Grand Canal Quay, Dublin 2, D02 NR22
- GrantedA section of the Grand Canal Dock Quay Wall, Dublin 2, to the eastern side of the Malt House, Grand Canal Quay, Dublin 2 and to the eastern side of Waterways House, Grand Canal Quay, Dublin 2
- GrantedUnit 3, The Anchorage, Ringsend Road, Dublin 4, D04X924
- GrantedNorth-Eastern side of the Railway Bridge at Bath Avenue, Dublin 4
- Appeal decided15, Malone Gardens, Dublin 4
- WithdrawnUnit 3, The Anchorage, Ringsend Road, Dublin 4, D04X924
- Commenced20 Hope Street, Dublin 04, D04 ER80
- GrantedGasworks House, Block E1 and E2, Barrow Street, Dublin 4
- Granted20, Hope Street, Dublin 4
- Granted14 Emerald Cottages,, Dublin 4, Dublin, D04 R2H4
- Withdrawn14 Emerald Cottages, Dublin 4
- Appeal decided8 Estate Cottages, Northumberland Road, Dublin 4, D04Y6H0
- GrantedBuilding B, 1 Ringsend Road, (protected structure RPS 7377) and Building F,, the ‘Factory’ Building (protected structure RPS 485), Boland's Quay, Ringsend Road and Barrow Street, Dublin 4
- Commenced13, Hope Street, Ringsend, Dublin 4
- Granted4 Grand Canal Quay, Dublin 2
- WithdrawnBuilding B, 1 Ringsend Road and Building F, Boland's Quay, Ringsend Road and Barrow Street, Dublin 4
- Withdrawn13, Hope Street, Ringsend, Dublin 4
- Withdrawn4 Grand Canal Quay, Dublin 2 , D02HR22
- Commenced50, Derrynane Gardens, Dublin 4
- Withdrawn8 Estate Cottages, Northumberland Road, Dublin 4, D04Y6H0
- Withdrawn50, Derrynane Gardens, Dublin 4, D04 C663
- Granted13 Hope Street, Ringsend, Dublin 4
- Commenced22A & 24 South Lotts Road, and 101 Gordon Street, Ringsend Dublin 4
- WithdrawnEmerald Cottages, to rear of, 14, Grand Canal Street, Dubin 2
- Withdrawn22A and 24 South Lotts Road and 101 Gordon Street, Ringsend, Dublin 4, D04 VA09
- Refused9, Hanover Quay, Dublin 2
- GrantedSite of 0.56 ha at Clanwilliam Court, Clanwilliam Place and Lower Mount Street, Dublin 2
- WithdrawnEmerald Cottages, to the rear of 14 Grand Canal Street Upper Dublin 2
- Withdrawn9, Hanover Quay, Dublin 2
- Commenced48 Upper Grand Canal Street, Dublin 4, D04 V990
- GrantedSouth Bank House, Barrow Street, Dublin 4, D04TR29
- WithdrawnSouth Bank House, Barrow Street, Dublin 4 , D04TR29
- Commenced2 Grand Canal Plaza, Grand Canal Street Upper, Dublin 4, D04V586
- Withdrawn2 Grand Canal Plaza, Grand Canal Street Upper, Dublin 4, D04V586
- Granted72 South Lotts Road, Ringsend, Dublin 4, D04 K201
- Granted14, Grand Canal Street Upper, Dublin 4
- Withdrawn14, Grand Canal Street Upper, Dublin 4
- GrantedLansdowne Road, north of the DART station, Dublin 4
- Commenced17, Hope Street, Dublin 4
- Withdrawnnorth of the DART station, Lansdowne Road, Dublin 4
- CommencedThe Reflector, 8 Hanover Quay, Dublin 2, D02 R573
- WithdrawnThe Reflector, 8 Hanover Quay, Dublin 2
- GrantedThe Reflector, 8 Hanover Quay, Dublin 2
- GrantedRear of 33, Grand Canal Street Upper, Ballsbridge, Dublin 4
- Refused15, Malone Gardens, Bath Avenue, Dublin 4
- Withdrawn9, Hanover Quay, Dublin 2
- GrantedThe Shipwright Guesthouse, 16/20 Thorncastle Street, Dublin 4
- Commenced12, Shelbourne Road, Ballsbridge, Dublin 4
- Commenced47, Grand Canal Street Upper, Dublin 4, D04W7P0
- GrantedUnit 7, Tower 2, The Flour Mill, Bolands Quay, Ringsend Road and Barrow Street, Dublin 4
- WithdrawnThe Shipwright Guesthouse , 16/20 Thorncastle Street, Dublin 4 , D04NT78
- GrantedCorner of Grand Canal Street Lower and Albert Court, Dublin 2
- Granted25, Aikenhead Terrace, Stella Gardens, Dublin 4 , D04 V060
- Granted12-14 The Anchorage, Charlotte Quay, Ringsend Road, Dublin 4
- CommencedThe Reflector, 8 Hanover Quay, Dublin 2
- CommencedUnit 3, Building B, The Flour Mill, Bolands Quay, Ringsend Road, Dublin 4
- GrantedTreasury Building, Grand Canal Street Lower, Dublin 2
- Commenced56, Derrynane Gardens, Dublin 4
- Withdrawn25, Aikenhead Terrace, Stella Gardens, Dublin 4, D04V060
- GrantedTreasury Annex, Adjoins the 'Treasury Building' located at the junction of Grand Canal Street Lower and Macken, Street, Dublin 2
- CommencedUnit 2, The Anchorage, Charlotte Quay, Ringsend Road, Dublin 4, D04 WE54
- CommencedUnits 3 and 13, Tower 1, Bolands Quay, Dublin 4
- Granted6, South Lotts Road, Dublin 4
- Withdrawn6 South Lotts Road, Dublin 4, D04FR83
- Commenced11, Margaret Place, Dublin 4
- Withdrawn11, Margaret Place, Dublin 4
- Granted11 South Dock Place, Dublin 4, D04E6C9
- Granted15 Gordon Street, Ringsend, Dublin 4, D04T9K5
- Granted22, Hastings Street, Dublin 4
- Granted44 Hastings Street, Ringsend, Dublin 4, D04WR98
- Withdrawn22, Hastings Street, Ringsend, Dublin 4, D04 WN12
- GrantedThe former Boland's Mill, Barrow Street, Dublin 4
- Commenced1, Bath Avenue Gardens, Dublin 4
- Withdrawn44 Hastings Street, Ringsend, Dublin 4, D04WR98
- Withdrawn44, Hastings Street, Ringsend, Dublin 4
- Commenced24 Malone Gardens, Off Bath Avenue, Sandymount, Dublin 4, D04HX54
- Granted1 Grand Canal Quay, Dublin 2
- Commenced67, Derrynane Gardens, Dublin 4
- Withdrawn24 Malone Gardens, Bath Avenue, Sandymount, Dublin 4
- Granted33, 34, 35A & 35 Barrow Street at Ringsend Road and Barrow Street, Dublin 4
- Granted36 Margaret Place, Dublin 4
- Withdrawn1, Bath Avenue Gardens, Dublin 4
- Withdrawn67, Derrynane Gardens, Dublin 4
- Granted46, South Dock Street, Dublin 4, D04 XY05
- Commenced16, Shelbourne Road, Dublin 4
- Granted56 Derrynane Gardens, Irishtown, Dublin 4
- Withdrawn1, Bath Avenue Gardens, Dublin 4
- Withdrawn46, South Dock Street, Dublin 4, D04 XY05
- Withdrawn36 Margaret Place, Dublin 4
- Withdrawn16, Shelbourne Road, Dublin 4, D04 X921
- Commenced10, Northumberland Road, Dublin 4
- GrantedShelbourne Park Greyhound Stadium, South Lotts Road, Dublin 4
- Withdrawn10 Northumberland Road, Dublin 4
- Appeal decided12, Bath Avenue Place, Dublin 4, D04 RX63
- GrantedNos. 10-12 Hanover Quay (protected structure), and No. 2 Green Street East (protected structure), Dublin Docklands, Dublin 2., Site bounded generally by Hanover Quay to the South,, Green Street East and 'Three Locks Square' to the north,, the Lock Keeper'
- Withdrawn12, Bath Avenue Place, Dublin 4
- Withdrawn36 Margaret Place, Dublin 4
- Withdrawn12, Bath Avenue Place, Dublin 4
- WithdrawnNos. 10-12, Hanover Quay (protected structure) and No. 2 Green Street East (protected structure), Dublin 2
- Commenced30 Vavasour Square, Sandymount, Dublin 4, D04 DT10
- Granted3, Malone Gardens, Sandymount, Dublin 4, D04 R768
- Appeal decided68, Derrynane Gardens, Sandymount, Dublin 4
- Commenced71, Derrynane Gardens, Dublin 4 D04 NH02
- Appeal decidedOsteria Lucio, The Malting Tower, Grand Canal Quay, , Clanwilliam Terrace, Dublin 2
- Withdrawn71, Derrynane Gardens, Sandymount, Dublin 4 D04 NH02
- Commenced23 Bath Avenue Gardens, Dublin 4
- Withdrawn71, Derrynane Gardens, Dublin 4 D04 NH02
- GrantedSite of 1.089 ha known as The former Boland's Mill incorporating 33 & 34 Barrow Street together with, 35A Barrow Street & 35 Barrow Street, at Ringsend Road and Barrow Street, Dublin 4
- Appeal decidedThe Schoolhouse Hotel, 2-8, Northumberland Road, Ballsbridge, Dublin 4, D04 P5W8
- GrantedNo. 1 Grand Canal Quay, Dublin 2, No. 2 Grand Canal Quay, Dublin 2, The Malt House, Grand Canal Quay Dublin 2
- Commenced37, Havelock Square, Sandymount, Dublin 4, D04 H298
- Commenced24, Doris Street, Dublin 4 D04 A0W8
- Commenced11, Somerset Street, Dublin 4 D04 XN79
- Granted80, Haddington Road, Dublin 4 D04 H6N4
- GrantedThe Schoolhouse Hotel, Northumberland Road, Dublin 4
- Commenced44, South Lotts Road, Ringsend, Dublin 4 D04 VP44
- Withdrawn80, Haddington Road, Dublin 4
- Withdrawn44, South Lotts Road, Ringsend, Dublin 4
- Granted12, Gerald Street, Dublin 4 D04 Y4T2
- Commenced14, South Dock Street, Dublin 4 D04 AY72
- WithdrawnThe Schoolhouse Hotel, 2-8 Northumberland Road, Ballsbridge, Dublin 4, D04 P5W8 former St Stephen's School (now hotel) .
- Refused71, Derrynane Gardens, Dublin 4 D04 NH02
- Refused4-6 Bath Avenue, Dublin 4, D04 V8N8
- Withdrawn12, Gerald Street, Dublin 4 D04 Y4T2
- Withdrawn6 Bath Avenue, Dublin 4, D04 V8N8
- Withdrawn14, South Dock Street, Dublin 4
- Commenced25, Aikenhead Terrace, Stella Gardens, Dublin 4, D04 V060
- Appeal decided59, Bath Avenue, Sandymount, Dublin 4, D04 CY58
- Refused16, Shelbourne Road, Ballsbridge, Dublin 4, D04 X921
- Withdrawn25A, Bath Avenue, Dublin 4
- Withdrawn59 Bath Avenue, Sandymount, Dublin 4, D04 CY58
- Granted22, Clanwilliam Square, Grand Canal Quay, Dublin 2, D02 XY46
- CommencedGrand Canal Wharf, South Dock Road, Grand Canal, Dublin 2
- Withdrawn22, Clanwilliam Square, Grand Canal Quay, Dublin 2, D02 XY46
- GrantedOn the footpath on the Eastern side of Macken Street, Dublin 2. The site is located adjacent to 'Trinity Technology & Enterprise Campus' to the East and opposite Conway Court (Nos 1-30) to the West
- Withdrawn16, Shelbourne Road, Ballsbridge, Dublin 4
- Refused71, Derrynane Gardens, Dublin 4 D04 NH02
- CommencedNo. 1 Grand Canal Quay, Dublin 2 and No. 2 Grand Canal Quay, Dublin 2
- CommencedThe "Boston Sidings Site" at Grand Canal Quay and Macken Street, Dublin 2
- GrantedNo. 1 Grand Canal Quay, Dublin 2 and No.2 Grand Canal Quay, Dublin 2
- CommencedNos. 10-12, Hanover Quay (protected structure) and No. 2 Green Street East (protected structure), Grand Canal Dock, Dublin 2
- Withdrawn22, Clanwilliam Square, Grand Canal Quay, Dublin 2, D02 XY46
- Withdrawn22, Clanwilliam Square, Grand Canal Quay, Dublin 2, D02 XY46
- GrantedCamden Lock, South Dock Road, Dublin 4
- Refused24, Malone Gardens, off Bath Avenue, Sandymount, Dublin 4, D04 HX54
- Appeal decided56, Grand Canal Street Upper, Ballsbridge, Dublin 4
- WithdrawnCamden Lock, South Dock Road, Dublin 4
- GrantedThe Kiosks at Grand Canal Square, Dublin 2
- Commenced28 Derrynane Gardens, Dublin 4, D04 YE28
- GrantedShelbourne Park Greyhound Stadium, South Lotts Road, Dublin 4
- Commenced36 South Lotts Road, Ringsend, Dublin 4, D04 DE77
- Withdrawn28 Derrynane Gardens, Dublin 4, D04 YE28
- WithdrawnSite at Grand Canal Square, Dublin 2
- CommencedThe former Boland's Mill incorporating 33 & 34 Barrow Street together with 35A Barrow Street & 35 Barrow Street, Ringsend Road and Barrow Street, Dublin 4
- WithdrawnShelbourne Park Greyhound Stadium, South Lotts Road, Dublin 4
- Commenced4, Grand Canal Quay, Dublin 2, D02 HR22 (formerly Connaughtons warehouse), 'The Tower', Grand Canal Quay, Dublin 2, D02 KD43- A Protected Structure and existing, car park between, also at Grand, Canal Quay Dublin 2
- Granted8, Hanover Quay, Dublin 2
- Commenced1, Havelock Terrace, Sandymount, Dublin 4 D04 KF25
- CommencedDublin Bus Depot, Ringsend Road, Ringsend, Dublin 4
- Withdrawn8, Hanover Quay, Dublin 2
- Granted24 & 22A South Lotts Rd. and 101 Gordon St.,Ringsend, Dublin 4
- Withdrawn1, Havelock Terrace, Sandymount, Dublin 4 D04 KF25
- Appeal decided5, Malone Gardens, Dublin 4, D04V1F3
- WithdrawnDublin Bus Depot, Ringsend Road, Ringsend, Dubllin 4
- Refused75, Ringsend Road, Dublin 4
- WithdrawnSite at No. 4 Grand Canal Quay, Dublin 2, D02 HR22 (formerly Connaughtons warehouse), 'The Tower', Grand Canal Quay, Dublin 2, D02 KD43-and existing car park between, also at Grand Canal Quay, Dublin 2.
- Refused52 Derrynane Gardens, Bath Avenue, Dublin 4
- CommencedUnderground Car Park, Block A, Grand Canal Square, Grand Canal Quay, Dublin 2
- GrantedNo. 1 Grand Canal Quay, Dublin 2 and No. 2 Grand Canal Quay, Dublin 2
- Withdrawn52, Derrynane Gardens, Bath Avenue, Dublin 4
- CommencedSite at Clanwilliam Court, Clanwilliam Place and Lower Mount Street Dublin 2.
- WithdrawnUnderground Car Park, Block A, Grand Canal Square, Grand Canal Quay, Dublin 2
- Withdrawn52, Derrynane Gardens, Bath Avenue, Dublin 4
- Granted15, Bath Avenue, Dublin 4
- Withdrawn15, Bath Avenue, Dublin 4 D04 XK06
- Commenced3, Barrow Street, Dublin 4 D04 T6T1
- Commenced29 Derrynane Gardens, Dublin 4, D04 PC63
- Withdrawn75, Ringsend Road, Dublin 4
- Commenced1 Grand Canal Square, Dublin 2
- Withdrawn15, Bath Avenue, Dublin 4
- Withdrawn75, Ringsend Road, Dublin 4
- Commenced4, Vavasour Square, Dublin 4, D04 DH74
- WithdrawnDublin Bus Depot, Ringsend Road, Ringsend, Dublin 4
- WithdrawnDublin Bus Depot, Ringsend Road, Ringsend, Dublin 4
- CommencedSite of 1.098 ha known as The former Boland's Mill incorporating 33 & 34 Barrow Street together with 35A Barrow Street & 35 Barrow Street at Ringsend Road and Barrow Street, Dublin 4
- GrantedMalt House North (Eircode D02R239, Malt House South (Eircode D02PW24) and No.s 1-4 Malt House Apartments (Eircode D02A252, D02XF63, D02WF83 and D02E803), Grand Canal Quay, Dublin 2 (which is a protected structure).
- WithdrawnThe Malt House North (Eircode D02R239), Malt House South (Eircode D02PW24) and No.s 1-4, Malt House Apartments (Eircode D02A252,DO2VF63, DO2WF83 and DO2E803), Grand Canal Quay, Dublin 2
- GrantedBlock D, Capital Dock, 1 Jessop Lane, Benson Street and Green Street East, Dublin 2, D02 W6T0
- Commenced35 Bath Avenue, Sandymount, Dublin 4, D04 WK19
- Withdrawn15, Bath Avenue Road, Dublin 4
- Refused26, Malone Gardens, Sandymount , Dublin 4
- RefusedRiverbank House, Camden Lock, South Dock Road, Dublin 4, D04 F627
- Withdrawn26 Malone Gardens, Bath Avenue, Sandymount, Dublin 4
- Appeal decided83 Ringsend Road, Dublin 4, D04 PD84
- Withdrawn83 Ringsend Road, Dublin 4, D04 DP84
Homes nearby
- For sale4 Doris Street, Ringsend, Dublin 4, D04 P046
- For sale42 Doris Street, Ringsend, Dublin 4, D04 VH50
- For saleApartment 17, The Poolbeg, The Gasworks, South Lotts Road, Ringsend, Dublin 4, D04 KH98
- For sale43 South Dock Street, Ringsend, Dublin 4, D04 E8Y8
- For sale9 Gerald Street, Ringsend, Dublin 4, D04 H9P4
- For sale4 The Ropery, Grand Canal Dock, Dublin 4, D04 A0H6
Development land nearby
- Permission running out · 23 homes granted 13 Dec 2021, expires 13 Dec 2026 — 17 Pearse Square (0.7 km)
- Permission running out · 19 homes granted 05 Jan 2022, expires 05 Jan 2027 — Nos. 39-43 (0.8 km)
- Permitted, not started · 15 homes granted 13 Oct 2026, expires 13 Oct 2031 — Land at South East Inner City (0.6 km)
- Residential land off South Dock Street, Dublin 4 (0.0 km)
- Residential land off Doris Street, Lotts Road South, Dublin 4 (0.0 km)
Zoning
Zone Z2 - DEV PLAN 2022-2028
R2 — Existing residential
An established residential area. The objective is to protect existing residential amenity as well as to provide housing — which is the objective a neighbour's objection to an overbearing extension is usually argued under.
Protections nearby 250 m
Flood area nearby (OPW maps). floodinfo.ie ↗
- Natural Heritage Area (incl. proposed) · 1
Where this comes from
National planning feed (NPAD), fetched 11 Sept 2026, 18:51.
Source: National Planning Application Database · fetched 11 Sept 2026, 18:51
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Summary
WEB5220/25 is a planning application to Dublin City Council for RETENTION: Permission for as constructed attic conversion with dormer to rear, received on 24 Sept 2025; permission was granted on 18 Nov 2025.